History Presents, America The Story Of Us, Rebels & Millennium

History, formerly known as The History Channel has become quite a force in cable networks. Not only are they presenting quality programs such as Pawn Stars, Pickers and more, they are producing quality programs that present a side of history that many need to be reminded of. While there are the controversial alien shows there are also examples such as the two recent programs, just released on DVD re from the series, America, The Story of US, including Rebels and Millennium. These two DVD’s present a side of history many should know, but unfortunately have either forgotten or didn’t learn.

Both DVD’s explore various stages of development in the United States. Rebels looks at the early stages of development that concludes with The Revolutionary war and Millennium look at recent history over the last hundred years, up to and including the space age and war on terror shortly thereafter the attacks on The World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. Millennium also looks at how America became a world power and the reality of the timing of my viewing of this documentary wasn’t lost on me, that being, the same day as the last launch of the space shuttle.

History has done an excellent job at producing high quality programming that transfers to DVD in documentary format, from the excellent animation to quality reenactments and narration. The images on screen and scripting of both programs provide not only quality education, but quality entertainment. Rebels is the first part of a 12 part mini-series and Millennium the last. Each episode and DVD stands on its own.

In Rebels I especially enjoyed the aspects of history presented I didn’t know. One included the number of Blacks who fought for the United States during the Revolutionary War, and the speculation that the first Patriot killed was in fact, a black man. There is more though, one being the background of Friedrich Wilhelm August Heinrich Ferdinand von Steuben also known as Baron von Steuben. He was a General George Washington used to train troops and many credit as being the primary reason for the turn of events in the war. Few know of his historical contribution to America’s freedom. It is speculated that few know of him in part due to the fact that von Steuben was a ‘blatant homosexual.’ The understanding and reality that all people were involved in America’s freedom in this series is quite enlightening. Another surprise for many will also be the importance of Tobacco in early America.

In Millennium I was reminded of the pride many took in the space program and the role it played in a difficult time, especially the 1960’s and 70’s. There is a display of American Spirit and Pride that is admirable. It is likely one of the reasons many are now discouraged about the place America seems to be, especially with the recent, last launch of the space shuttle and apparent dissemination of NASA.

There is much from a historical perspective to like about both DVD’s. As I have gotten older I have learned to appreciate history, and the history presented here is not only educational, it reminds me of a time I lived, and the lack of truth in some of the things I was taught. There are reasons many have developed a focus on self as opposed to the collective spirit of a people, and nation. It is likely, in part, the intent to satisfy self, withholding truth, and presenting a history that excludes people we don’t like or understand that is a part of the reasoning we as a nation have the focus on self we do.

I can’t help but be reminded of the mighty things that can be accomplished by people coming together. For example, in only recent history have we started to explore the possibility of gays in the military, but, we forget, many historians credit a gay man with turning the troops around to win the Revolutionary War. These programs cause me to question, are we really inclusive as a nation, and have we so quickly forgotten what it was that inspired some to try and destroy our nation on September 11, 2001? That is the power of programming like this, especially when done in a thought provoking way. We are forced to think beyond ourselves.

The fear of forgetting our past not only transcends in nationalism, but also on the same type of thing from a faith perspective. For those of us who have had faith experiences that changed our lives, do we get so caught up in ourselves that we forget about the people we once were, our history, and the truths of our past? Many will say no, while at the same time, ignoring those around them who have walked in the same shoes we have, thankfully, some will remember and see the similarities and be challenged to help others. They will come together as opposed to isolating in their spiritual walk.

I appreciated these two documentaries, and while they are worth owning, I can’t highly recommend them as they are simply presentations of the television show, without commercials, but with nothing beyond what was on television. I would have liked some special features but unfortunately got none. I would have preferred more than a rehashing of the television shows, but unfortunately that was all I got. While these DVD’s are of benefit to those who didn’t see the program, it provides little to those who did see them or perhaps taped it for their own usage. There are educational benefits for the classroom if used there, but their use will challenge what some have been taught from a revisionist perspective of history.

What is of use beyond this is the search for truth within our own lives and practices. Not only from a historical perspective related to nationalism, but from a perspective related to our individualism. So much of history mirrors our experiences and in some ways, shapes our personalities. An understanding of the history and times some of us grew up in can help us have a better understanding of ourselves. I have learned to appreciate that, unfortunately, I think some are so into themselves that they will care less about truth and what shaped them and our country. I could be wrong though, and on that point, I hope I am.

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I Love You Phillip Morris

With star power like Jim Carrey, and Ewan McGregor, incredible dramatic performances, a phenomenal soundtrack, one would think a movie would have a chance of success at the box office. That is until you consider the movie I Love You Phillip Morris. The story starts with Jim Carrey’s character, Steven Russell, playing the organ and getting down during the worship time at church. He meets Debbie, played by Leslie Mann, they fall in love, get married, have a family and spend time praying together prior to extra curricular activities, like sex. Steven eventually starts scamming people via various means after he is involved in an automobile accident. He discovers he is gay, gets involved in various inappropriate activities, is imprisoned, and falls in love with fellow inmate Phillip Morris played by Ewan McGregor, he then spends the rest of his life trying to escape from prison, often times succeeding while going back to his con games. The amazing thing about this unbelievable concept is the story is true.

I Love You Phillip Morris is wonderfully directed by Glenn Ficarra and John Requa. Unfortunately, due to the difficulty of finding distribution in the United States 4 minutes of the European version has been cut from the film. Some speculate the language, sexual content and homosexual themes were one of the reasons for the reluctance to be picked up for major theatrical release in the United States. For many fans of Jim Carrey, there will be surprises in the role, but for many, the expected negative comments is unfortunate because Carrey gives one of his better performances in a dramatic role. He finds a way to take his comedic genius into its proper place in the brilliance of his performance, from bringing comedy and tears in a single shot; Carrey is a far better actor than many have given credit for. Unfortunately, one of the things I expect is that his performance will overshadow the equally impressive performance of Ewan McGregor. The marvelous editing keeps this thought provoking, surpassingly good film flowing and moving rather quickly.

In the special features Jim Carrey in the making of documentary speaks of how while studying the role, he finds himself changing his impression of the character and film from page to page. What we see is a character and a story that draws in the viewer and is wonderfully written. Ficarra and Requa in their direction help develop the characters all along the way from the start until the completion of the film. As soon as we think we have one of the characters figured out, we realize there are additional, unexpected turns. One of the things that drive the force of story is the ability of Carrey to come in and out of the part of comedian and dramatic actor. McGregor plays his part in a real and respectful way. McGregor also commented that he wanted to make the part of Phillip Morris as real to his nature as possible. It is one of the things that make this one of McGregor’s best and memorable roles.

One of the unfortunate things about this movie is that many will be turned off by the backdrop of the story, the homosexual aspects of the film. It is unfortunate, because as the movie points out, for many individuals who are gay, religion and spirituality is an important part of their lives, and an important part of making them who they are. Unfortunately, for many who are gay, there is often the impression that they are unloved and uncared for. Despite the display of judgment often given, the movie helps illustrate the importance in the search for love and meaning that all individuals have, including those who are gay. For all of the inappropriate aspects of the character of Steven Russell, he is still a character, an individual in search of meaning and love. Steven Russell has a love that is so deep, so passionate that he goes to extraordinary lengths to show his partner that he loves him. Later as the story progresses we also see the realization in his character that all he ever really wanted was to love, and be loved. He also realizes the mistakes and path he has taken could have kept him from fully experiencing a lasting and meaningful loving relationship. I couldn’t help but think of the various scenes in the movie where religion, specifically Christianity, plays such a prominent role, and yet for whatever reason, Russell never felt the love that is supposed to be a key ingredient of Christianity. It is here, that if given the chance, this film could raise appropriate questions for all people, gay and straight, that are the need for each of us to experience love. It is a love that is exhibited in the Christian faith that God loved us while we were yet sinners. He loves us unconditionally, and offers that love as a free gift to all who would receive it. Unfortunately, many followers of Christianity seem to often place conditions on that love that is not displayed in the love offered by Jesus on the cross. Russell has ample opportunities through out the film to come into contact with those who would love him from a Christian view. Fortunately, that love by the characters in the film is not judgmental, it is accepting, and loving, yet the script doesn’t take us in that direction for Russell.

In the area of behavior, don’t take my comments here wrong, there are consequences for inappropriate actions, both in the movie, and in real life, Steven Russell pays the price for his actions. I am not speaking about homosexual actions here; I am speaking specifically of the con man nature displayed for much of his life. While we see an extreme example of someone trying to be someone other than who they really are, for many of us, it seems as if we often go to places to please others which takes us to places beyond who and what we really are and believe. One of the aspects about Russell that we are left wondering about is if he is really happy with the choices he has made.

It is possible, that just as Philadelphia was a life changing role for Tom Hanks, I Love Phillip Morris had the same opportunity for Jim Carrey. It is certainly one of the most challenging roles of his career. The movie is thought provoking, challenging, and yes entertaining. Unfortunately, for many, due to the backdrop of the story and the characters’ sexual orientation and themes, it will also be controversial. That is a shame, especially when presenting a true story where the characters and community it represents deserves entertainment and thought provoking themes. It will be interesting to see the response to the DVD.

I was quite pleased with the special features on the DVD, form the commentary to the making of and various other features, there is enough for an enthusiast like myself to be happy. I was not personally impressed enough with the blu-ray visual quality to justify the blu-ray purchase if given the option. Personally, while a very good, thought provoking movie, I wouldn’t recommend it for purchase, but it is well worth an early check out as a rental.

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Thy Will Be Done

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From the outset, I expect this could be one of the most controversial reviews I have done. Not necessarily from my perspective, but from those who often read the reviews. It touches on a subject matter that stirs a great deal of debate, especially within the religious community and has individuals with strong opinions on both ends of the spectrum. Thy Will Be Done looks at the efforts of a male-to-female transsexual, Sara Herwig in her attempt to be ordained by the Presbyterian Church. There are those who seek to block her ordination and question if she is or is not a female as the ordination process is complicated by her later lesbian marriage to another female. While this documentary is short, right at one hour long, it is packed with thought provoking story if one will simply give it a chance, watch, and listen with an open heart.

From the opening scenes of Thy Will Be Done we are mesmerized with not only intriguing story, but a well shot and framed film directed by Alice Bouvrie. As a part of the effort which took several years to film we see various parties and an open and honest dialog of the events surrounding the life of Sara Herwig. Bouvrie weaves an intriguing tale using the stories and words of those involved in the life of Sara, both prior and after her gender change.

Thy Will Be Done starts off in a mesmerizing way. It wastes no time addressing the conflict as approached from a Biblical perspective. In the opening shot see Sara getting ready to do some canoeing, showing in part her continued love of the outdoors that goes back to the days of her youth as a young man. There is a voice-over by Sara recognizing, in a respectful way those who would have Biblical issues with what she has done. She shows a respectful perspective of these people, even praising them for standing up and speaking up for what they believe. She appreciates their willingness to base their opinions on Biblical teachings, she just happens to disagree with the conclusions. We see, and hear a respectful Sara, one who seems to have applied the Biblical aspect of love.

From here the story of Sara follows her from her youth as a young man, through a Christian college in Kansas, initial enrollment and attendance at a seminary, to her marriage, and ultimate divorce, gender change, attempts to obtain ordination, and a 2nd marriage, this time to another woman. While only an hour long, the director Bouvrie does an excellent job at storytelling, and Sara’s own willingness to address the issue helps move one beyond the discomfort level some may have with the subject matter. There is a large amount of input from Sara’s daughter and Sara's former wife Billie. A tribute to this film is the willingness of all parties to share open and honest opinions. Bouvrie does an admirable job at being fair in the information provided on screen. She attempted to involve those opposing Sara’s ordination within the Presbyterian Church but they refused to appear on film. Their refusal to participate may have been a mistake as the movie doesn’t really take a position on right or wrong on the issue, as much as it presents Sara’s story. The film seems to be an indication of Bouvrie and Sara’s fairness in the willingness to hear the differing positions of those in the church.

Thy Will Be Done, on the surface would appear to be easy to critical of from those on either end of the spectrum. That is until hearing and seeing the comments from Sara’s former wife, Billie. When looking at the history of Sara, her feelings of always thinking she was a female, there are not only appropriate questions regarding gender change, but also regarding the ways society looks at and perceives those who have had gender change issues. Billie also attended the screenings I attended at Tallgrass in Wichita for a question and answer session. She was clear as to the friendship she now has with Sara and the reasons for it. She stated that her life experiences with Sara now made sense.

Thy Will Be Done is at its heart, an attempt to tell the Sara’s story. In that story is a great deal of thought provoking information on various positions like Gender Identity. The assumption by many on the religious right which assumes that one with Gender Identity issues is gay shows the need for continuing education. While this may be true with some, it is far from true with all. There are legitimate biological issues that are worthy of appropriate, respectful discussion and thought provoking, honest study and discourse. What Thy Will Be Done does is address these issues from a position that many may not be familiar with, specifically from the perspective of one who holds too many of the traditional Biblical concepts of Christianity; yet, it challenges those within these ‘traditional’ beliefs as to those beliefs and the origins of those beliefs. This is important from a variety of perspectives, from the concepts of living in a fallen world, to the reality that bad things happen, and are not always as God intended, to consideration of Biblical interpretation and application. At the core is the concept of how far does one who is called to love, go in the love of one they disagree with? This film presents Sara’s commitment to her faith, and to what she believes her call in life is. While many may disagree with her, her grit and determination is frankly, admirable.

I felt I knew what I could expect when going into this movie. I thought I was going to get an unfair presentation to a controversial issue. I was wrong! What it did was present a fair story of an individual, who, like it or not, is fighting for something she believes in. Unfortunately, many will not sit down to engage in the discussion of the issues in an open, honest way. There are others who will. This documentary will likely not sway an individual’s perspective on the issue of Gender Identity or the role of Homosexuals in ministry. It does, for those willing, provide discussion points on the issue which can be of benefit. While I wish the story would have been a tad longer, it was surprisingly effective, thought provoking and challenging. It is also one that should have many in the religious community, whatever their beliefs are wondering about their own ability to love, even those who are different, those they disagree with, and ultimately, even their enemies. In the New Testament, there is the reminder of what love is in 1 Corinthians 13, but there is also the challenge that if one can’t love their neighbor, their fellow human being, who they see, how can they say they love God whom they have never seen? A rather thought provoking question if you ask me, and one deserving of thought. Thy Will Be Done is a documentary that may just challenge some as to their ability to love, even those they may disagree with. There are many more questions that could be asked, but we have to start someplace, with some expectancy, I suspect that for some, this review is a place to start. Hopefully with thoughtful, respectful debate.

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Blast from the Past, Brokeback Mountain

With my work with The Virtual Pew I often find myself involved in ministry I never anticipated. Ministry to those in the Gay Community is one such example. To this date, this review was the most responded to review I have ever done. Both via email, phone calls and posts on the review. I have decided to post the blast from the past on my birthday. To this date, I think Brokeback Mountain is the only movie review I ever went back to change my thoughts on. I hope you enjoy this particular blast from the past. Also, I have pasted the original comments after the plugs for The Virtual Pew. It would be great to continue the conversation, some 3 1/2 years later.


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Brokeback Mountain was a movie that I was actually looking forward to seeing. To see it on the weekend of the HJAG along with Chris Utley and Elisabeth Leitch, fellow reviewers from Hollywood Jesus, was almost a moment of euphoria— after all, we had the nice little meal from Bill's Bar and Pub across the street and everything was almost perfect. I should have seen the foreshadowing that lay ahead when a seagull resting on the eaves of the Egyptian Theater in Seattle decided to use my shirt sleeve as a toilet.

I was as drawn in to the movie prehype as much as any movie I have seen. I have already received criticism from the religious right, condemning my perspective that The Crying Game is my favorite love story ever filmed. So from my respect of that particular movie, I knew that as a follower of Jesus—often times criticized by the religious right, and a male married to a loving wife with children—I didn’t have the preconceived stereotypes and prejudices as many would have seeing this movie. I had heard from friends who are gay, and others who weren’t (along with reviews), to be ready for the heart tugging ending and great story. I actually wanted that movie, I desired, longed for, and hungered for the ending that would cause many who don’t understand homosexuality to have a better understanding, a deeper love, and a compassionate understanding to see gay people as just that, people first, with a different sexual persuasion. I cringe every time I see the Bible Thumping Televangelist blasting homosexuals along with every perverted word imaginable. Truth is I never felt compelled to throw the first stone at anyone. I also don’t quite understand the need to emphasize certain aspects of life or preconceived “sin” more than others. Seems to me that many could equally look at pride, greed, gluttony, and other things that are in the views of many, “sin.” Truth is, virtually all movies with actors involve people that the Bible says are in “sin.” The need to pick on any particular group is a question that has caused me more than one headache, trying to figure out the rationalization of some.

I wanted Brokeback Mountain to address issues in a real way that would cause a better understanding of the homosexual community. I wanted it to provide characters that the Homosexual community could look up to, respect, learn from and admire to some extent. I wanted that because we all deserve some measure of hope and understanding. For years, this medium has given the issue far too little mainstream exposure and not enough real questions and issues have been asked as a result of the movies being made. With the exception of Philadelphia, staring Tom Hanks and the controversial Crying Game, not many movies with primarily gay characters has received mainstream recognition. The press this year, for whatever reason, has resoundingly praised Brokeback Mountain. With all of the hoopla I was expecting great things.

The acting in the movie is quite good; in many regards I would personally consider it exceptional, especially Michelle Williams who wonderfully plays the part of Ennis Del Mar’s wife. I was also impressed with the character Jack Twist played beautifully by Jake Gyllenhall. While at times the character of Ennis Del Mar is wonderful, I was detracted by the mumbling of Heath Ledger in playing of the part. I don’t personally blame Ledger but Ang Lee who, in my opinion provides poor direction, and shows in the inability to fully understand the characters he is presenting. For example, it is typical for cowboys to mumble; I know this because of living in Kansas, and in the past in Oklahoma. Those places are unique in that while they may be metropolitan areas, it don’t take long to find a “real cowboy.” The real cowboys often mumble because of the fact that they are speaking with a dip of snuff. Yet, while you see no cowboys dipping tobacco in this movie, you do see them often times smoking. At this point I draw the conclusion that Lee or someone on staff has likely heard cowboys speak, just never figured out why they speak the way they do.

There are other issues with the direction of this film that I had problems with. There is little character development with the exception of the two primary lead characters. Even there, the character development leaves one with questions. Some of the press has spoken about the fact that people will be speaking of the movie long after they see it. I believe that assumption true, but they are not speaking on themes as much as they are trying to figure things out. I won’t answer or ask any of those questions here, but rest assured, you will know what I am speaking about when and if you see the movie.

I also had issues with the editing of this movie and the make-up. In critical scenes, on male characters you see make-up blotches on a lead character, especially in close up scenes. Then the editing jumps from one scene to another with little or no continuity or relevant transition. Not just in transitional scenes, but in critical scenes. These things provide a distraction that hindered the enjoyment and educational process of the movie.

There is an abundance of spiritual symbolism that is a primary component for the characters in the film. From discussions on denominational differences, to theological issues, those questions arise. The first sexual encounter of the characters should not be lost in the fact that it occurs when one individual fails to fulfill his responsibilities in looking out for the sheep he is responsible for. There are images of cowboys carrying sheep to safety in the same way that we have seen images of Jesus, or King David carrying sheep. The transitions from religious discussion in the movie, tied in with the responsibility to watch the sheep, and then the failure to do so, leads to the first homosexual act in the movie; I believe that is more than a coincidence.

There are other themes, such as infidelity, commitment, and more that come up in the movie. Those themes are centered around characters who openly admit that at one time they were actively involved in church. While not involved in church for much of the movie, they recognize the need to provide spiritual opportunities for their children, including taking them to, and picking them up from church. This raises questions: Why is faith so critical to the characters and their families? What happened to that faith? Why aren’t the lead characters consistent in that faith? These are all valid questions. One can even take the concept further; has the church missed the boat on the issue of homosexuality? How do the actions of the church affect those who are gay? How does the church address the struggles of faith that are asked in the Gay Community? All questions worthy of discussion—and all questions largely not addressed with any conclusion, or even editorial comment provided, in the movie where the themes are evident and a part of the lives of the characters.

There are other questions that one could ask, especially questions those in the church could ask themselves. I have to admit, that I am not as troubled with acts of sex between a male and female in a movie as I am acts of sex between two partners of the same sex. Why? I will give Brokeback Mountain credit for causing me to reflect on my own views and reflections in a way that I haven’t before. Why we view some issues as being wrong, or even more wrong than others, is an appropriate question. Especially in light of a belief system that sees any “sin” or “wrong” as being disobedient to God. In many ways, it seems to drive home a misconstrued, inconsistent God—a God that people have difficulty figuring out. I can't help but believe that God is far more consistent than I am, and doesn’t have the varying areas of “wrong” that I sometimes have in my own life. In that regard, Brokeback Mountain caused me to reflect with positive results.

Unfortunately, reflecting on things not addressed in a movie doesn’t constitute a good movie. I went in with high expectations and left feeling that Brokeback Mountain is the most overhyped, disappointing movie I have seen this year. It is unfortunate because the gay community deserves better. They deserve a film that will give them heroes, lasting love, and hope. They deserve a movie that will cause the public to reflect upon them as people, a movie that will cause open and honest discussion of spiritual things. For me, Brokeback Mountain fell far short of any of those expectations.

On a scale of 1 – 10, for the company of 3 that went to see the movie together, plus the sea gull which left me a little present on my shirt, a very disappointing 3.

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27 Comments:
Chris Utley said...
Mike, it was a pleasure seeing the film with you and Elizabeth!

Regarding Heath Ledger's performance, as I meditated on the film while writing my own review, I think I pretty much got a handle of why Ennis Del Mar was portrayed as such. His posture & demeanor - specifically his heavily mumbled voice - indicated that Ennis had a deeper internal struggle than mere homosexuality: the spirit of isolation. He was isolated, withdrawn and disconnected - both horizontally and Vertically. Every fiber of his being demonstrated it. If we look closer, we'll see more of ourselves than we care to see.

More on my review. Check it out.

5:01 PM


Reviews by Mike Furches said...
Chris, you bring out a great point here, and I really enjoyed your review. I look forward to the one from Elisabeth as well. Great job friend and look forward to the next time we get to go to one together.

8:04 PM


Anonymous said...
Gay is gay. God hates gays, how can you even watch such a film?shame on you and you are a pastor -- Hmm! How is this possible?

8:07 PM


Chris Utley said...
Is that so? According to this, God doesn't hate anyone:

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Since gays and lesbians are in the world, it seems that they fall under this category as well.

:o)

12:06 AM


Reviews by Mike Furches said...
God forbid that I would have given it a good review. Chris is correct, God hates sin, not the sinner. God hates the sin of judgment and pride just as much as any sin, in fact, those are the sins that ultimately destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, not homosexuality and sexual sin as many would have you believe, at least according to scripture. How can I be a pastor? The same way that many other pastors are that do movie reviews. Again, your misapplication of theology in my opinion on your part. We are all called into ministry. We are all "ministers" ministers to people who are in sin. I guess one could say the same about Jesus to some extent that you have about me, and no I am not comparing myself to Jesus, but using your reasoning, "How could Jesus have ministered to a Demon possessed person, after all he hates the devil." Same for Paul, and other individuals in scripture who saw past the sin and into the sinner. "How could Jesus have ministered to a woman caught in sexual sin?" And the list could go on and on. News Flash! The Gospel isn't for people just like you, it is for all. Quit being like a Pharasee and start being more like Christ in showing others love for them. And before you come back and explain the love you have, start showing it instead of spewing off homophobic comments which lead people away from Christ instead of drawing them near. By the way, hope you have visited every other review site on the planet that have reviewed this movie, many of them negatively as have I and made the comments, truth is though, I doubt you have done that to even 2 other sites. The difference though is that my negative comments are based on the technical content, not the subject matter. Tell me a single movie that doesn't have as a theme someone who is in according to your definition, isn't. Truth is you can't. Even the movies like the Passion, which appear to be about Christ are not really about him, they are about his love for people in, guess what? Sin!

1:28 AM


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7:33 PM


James Powell said...
Hey Mike,you rock. You are exactly what a pastor should be. I used to go to Chruch. Bad News! so much condemnation... l am not oriented toward women. I was born different than other boys. It's the way it is. I was surfing the net for "Brokeback Mountain" and somehow came to your review. Do you have any idea what it is like. Believe me it is difficult. I was so amazed be your review. All I can say is thanks. This is the first time I have come across a pastor like you. Excellent --but I am confused about church. I guess I would rather not go. Too much negativity. How would I find someone/pastor like you here in Orland?

7:35 PM


Reviews by Mike Furches said...
James thanks for the kind words and know that despite what others think, say, and/or do, it does not change the fact that God has a compassionate love for you. I would be glad to correspond and help in any way I can, drop me an email and we could go from there. I would also say that there are more and more pastors who understand the need to show Christ's love, for far to long, the church has been chasing people away from the love of Christ, it is high time that we started drawing them to the love of Christ. I am convinced that we don't draw many people in while throwing rocks. In short, I think I know some of what it is like for varying reasons, it is one of the reasons I believe God would have us understand and love each other instead of condemning and judging them. My email is mike@furches.org look forward to hearing from you.

7:09 AM


Anonymous said...
Hi Mike,
You had some quite interesting things to say and raised some important questions. One thing you said was that you weren't troubled with acts of sex between a maile and female as with two males and why we view some issues as more wrong than others. It is true that all sin separates us from God, but I don't think that all issues can be separated as "sin" and "not sin". Heterosexual sex within marriage was God's idea. He created Adam and Eve, male and female and told them to be fruitful and multiply. Within marriage sex is beautiful and commanded by God. There is no time that homosexuality is right, just as sex with animals is always wrong because neither are what God intended for men and women. Fortunately for us Jesus came not only to pay the penalty for all our sins (which is death), but to free us from the sin that enslaves us. That gives all of us hope that Jesus makes it possible to become like Him and not think that we are condemned to sin because "we were all born that way".

8:14 AM


Reviews by Mike Furches said...
I would agree with your comment, the only correction I made is that I stated that the act of sex between a male and female does not bother me "as much." I agree that any act of sex outside of marriage is sin according to God's Word. I also believe though that there are numerous sins, that the church seems to focus on more than others, I would like to personally know why it is usually the sexual sins that are at the top of the list. All sin, any sin, condemns us to Hell without Christ. I also believe strongly though that while some may respond to direct confrontation, that ultimately Christ presented himself in such a way as to cause others to ask him questions. In other words they came to him seeking answers. There is an excellent book called the Counseling of Jesus that explores this approach quite thoroughly. I believe that Scripture gives evidence to the fact that most of the time that was because individuals saw and recognized the love of Christ, in contrast to the condemnation of the religious leaders. They were compelled to learn from him because he showed them love when no one else did. Christ comes to set us free from sin, agreed? Yet, how he draws us to him is certainly different from one individual to another. In addition, truth is, Christ loved us, while we were sinners, or as the Greek seems to indicate, despite the fact that we're sinners and in continual sin. That love and forgiveness is for all of humanity, unfortunately the church hasn't done a very good job of illustrating that love. Another point here is that while we may be tempted to sin in some areas more than others, the temptation is not the sin, it is the giving in to the temptation that we sin. Of course Jesus takes this a step further in his teaching on the Sermon on the Mount. That is however, a whole other debate that gets most all of us into trouble without the forgiveness of Christ.

9:52 AM


Rhea said...
I appreciate your open-mindedness and willingness to be friends with homosexual people, but I must disagree in several ways with your post. First of all, though noble, the desire for a movie to be an example for gay people everywhere is simply ridiculous. One way that heterosexual and racial priviledge in this country is enacted is the fact that white heterosexuals' behavior is never thought of as indicative of their entire race/sexual orientation. All too often people of color and non-heterosexuals are judged as a whole based on the actions of a few people. I loved the movie and took it for what it is, a fictional piece of art, not a manifesto. I was very impressed with your respectful musings on the movie (maybe except for the bird feces analogy:). I do not expect many Christians to understand this movie. I am a follower of Jesus who has the priveledge to live in San Francisco and be exposed to many types of people who love Jesus in ways that would simply be denied elsewhere. I am married and was very touched by the kind of love expressed in the movie -- the kind of love that tears you up inside, that you would be willing to die for. I am fully aware that most people who read this post will not agree with me and may be angry with what they read. I just felt like my perspective may be an interesting one for you to consider.

11:22 AM


Reviews by Mike Furches said...
rhea, I appreciate your perspective and would be less than honest if I didn't state that I have my own issues to address with homosexuality. I make some mention of that and believe it is critical that I see people first as people. I learned this when adopting my son. I was told that I should always refer to him as a child of biracial origin as opposed to a biracial child. It seems like such a little thing, but in reality it is not.

I realise that there is much for me to learn. I hope I was clear in my review that my criticism of the movie was not so much against the content as it was the technical aspects which I think fell far short, at least for me they did.

I would hope that you always feel welcome to come in and voice your opinion and your views on any of the blogs of the HJ staff or certainly myself. I value debate and the learning process.

I am glad that the movie was good for you. I really am, I wish it had been more so for me. It probably started with that darned seagull. (:^)

In closing here, I don't expect a movie to speak for an entire group of people, but I do long for movies like the Crying Game that address issues that can be done in a brilliant way, while at the same time, provoking thought and positive attributes.

Blessings and thanks for your comments.

12:15 PM


Rhea said...
Wow thanks for that loving and thoughtful response to my post. I am used to Christians freaking out at me when I express views that are a bit different from mainstream. You rock. Congrats on your adoption -- my marriage is an interracial one and we plan to make "children of biracial origin" one day as well, God willing!

5:35 PM


Justin said...
One thing I like about this site is how people think outside the box. I read an article in Relevant magazine once that dealt with the church's response to homosexuality, and how as "lovers of others" we have somehow missed the mark by not treating homosexuals with the same respect and love we treat our heterosexual friends with. It definitely touched me on a certain level, cause I have always struggled with homosexuality in a judgemental sort of way. I struggle with others too, but some sins, like sexual or things of that nature are more apparent so to speak, they stick out by virtue of their physicalness. I think this is why christians focus on these sins as "worse" and others as "not as bad". I, like you, think this is a wrong mindset, but I understand where they are coming from. I myself deal with lust on a heterosexual level, pornography and things of that nature. I've had homosexual thoughts in the past...only cause I believe, kind of along the same line as Mr. Utley does that the longer we isolate ourselves from true biblical community, the more we seek out things to make us feel connected...be they pornography, or homosexuality. I think the level of which one goes depends upon their openmindedness and inhibitions, or even just loneliness and how deeply it is felt. There was a Between Thieves song that said "Alone is not a number, but a state of mind.", I've always agreed with that. And as I think many Christian thinkers are starting to realize nowadays, donald Miller was one that really hit me over the head, people need to be loved, and God needs to love, and we need to be lovers as much as we need to be loved. I don't think the answer to sin is to hate oneself for the sins they commit as many churches seem to espouse in their direct rejection of persons for the sins they commit, but to know God loves them, and He extends grace. And for us to love them, and extend them grace to grow on their own. who knows, they may strugle forever with homosexual thought, but they at least know they are loved, and appreciated, and respected, and not looked down on. I think this is what is being cried out for in the end here, to be loved...

I wil probably not see the movie, but that's for my own personal reasons. Personal convictions, etc. But thank you, thank you for standing up for love. Love is a beautiful thing, cause God is love.

8:42 PM


Reviews by Mike Furches said...
rhea, you can only imagine the comments I get from Christians, http://www.thematforums.com/myforum/?show_topic=12528&forum_id=11 gives some indication of that. There are others on that board which I frequently visit. Just know that the measure of a Christian is ultimately Christ and love. The question becomes do we love like Christ? I pray I do. Thanks again and God's blessings on your marriage,and any time you disagree, go for it.

4:31 AM


Reviews by Mike Furches said...
Justin, thanks as well for your comments. I am troubled by the so called "love" displayed by many Christians. As made mention in a very long discourse on the thread mentioned above in the previous post, I am okay with the fact that some become followers of Christ out of fear. I personally have issue with those individuals though when they think everyone else should come to that same relationship. If God truly is love, we must ask ourselves, What is love and how do we display it? I make many mistakes, I am not always able to love, but I hope the measure of which people judge me by is the love and authenticity of my walk with Christ. Don't have to worry too much about me trying to love, I remember how horrible of a sinner I was, and am, and I also recall it was love that drew me to Christ, not the love that ridicules and puts down, but the love that has open arms and embraces.

4:35 AM


Reviews by Mike Furches said...
Hate to do this and hope that the person needing it reads it. I received an email the other day that I really wanted to answer regarding this movie. I accidently deleted the email and wanted to come on and ask that the person email me again. I really apologize for this. My mail filter program though does crazy things sometimes and I want to readers to know, that I will always respond to the emails. mike@furches.org

7:53 AM


JD said...
Hi, I`m from Germany. In terms of my knowledge of the enhlish language I have to say that I`m a little bit out of practice. So I`ll keep this short ;). YOU`RE DOING AN AWESOME JOB HERE!!

5:15 AM


Aaron said...
If you wanted a movie that was positive, I would recommend "Rent." It doesn't stereotype, judge, or just focuson the gay relationships. It is all about love, though.

'Thought & Humor' by Howdy, I really do not appreciate your spamming of all of the Hollywood Jesus reviews of Brokeback Mountain with your little clever quotes. Quoting the Bible is great, as is expressing your views on a topic. Cutting and pasting a super-long manifesto into a bunch of comment boxes without being willing to say anything is not. That said, the stuff about the study was a little interesting.

2:13 AM


Reviews by Mike Furches said...
Aaron, thanks for the heads up and truth is I haven't seen the movie Rent although I did see it on Broadway a few years ago. I would love to see it and probably will. I would also add that Thought & Humor would be more than welcome to comment and engage in dialog, but let's keep the discussion amongst people and not cut and pasting. Each review at HJ is with a different twist, so different discussions pertaining to the review would be nice. Thanks again and I'll be looking for the DVD.

4:34 AM


Reviews by Mike Furches said...
Jd your english is a lot better than my German, thanks for visiting and the kind words.

4:35 AM


Anonymous said...
I just found your site. Your comments encourage me. I am a follower of Christ who struggles as the character Ennis did. I'm not sure why I'm this way, but I know that, so far, God has not changed me, in spite of my begging. I have a wife and children, and I believe that I must be faithful. The disconnectedness and isolation depicted by the Ennis character was so real to me that I have been unable to shake it in the five weeks since I saw the movie. So, in sum, the movie had a profound impact of a not-so-good kind in that I saw myself and now feel pitiable but not pitied, longing to be known but not known or knowable.

11:06 AM


Reviews by Mike Furches said...
I just returned from viewing Brokeback Mountain for the second time, this time with my wife. I have to say I was moved more this time for whatever reason. I noticed much of the obvious that I commented on in my initial review, and then some. For example, I didn’t notice the first time that we only see much of the right side of Ennis' face. This due in large to the fact that Heath Ledger has had his left ear pierced and the pierce holes show up rather easily. Something that was not typical with Cowboys in the 60's or even for that matter even today. All of the technical things aside I got more out of the story this time.

Truth is, in a lot of ways, Chris is exactly right in his take on the movie. It is a truly sad story that again, moved me several times, especially the end scenes. If doing it over again, I would have given a higher rating than I gave on my initial review. I still think the movie is over hyped and not as good as many proclaim it to be, but it is still nonetheless a quality movie. The cinematography is outstanding and the story of friendship and the need of friendship is powerful. I would go so far as to say that for those that had trouble with it the first time, to watch it again, see if you enjoy the movie and story more the second time. My wife even liked the movie and my daughter loved it. The second viewing gave me more of what I wanted with the first viewing, more of a understanding of people who happen to be gay, and more of a desire to befriend and show them the love that they, as does every human, long for, and need.

Anonymous, I can feel more for the struggle you must be going through. I'll be praying for you, for the struggle that Ennis went through is a sad and difficult struggle. I wish I had answers for you, I really do, but truth is I don't. What I can do is state that if you ever want to talk, or express how you are feeling, or maybe even just have someone pray for you, to let me know. Email me at mike@furches.org I keep those contacts confidential and appreciate the fact that God can use me to share his love with someone else, even in the tough times. I'll also say to one who read the review earlier and emailed me, I accidentally lost the email address of one individual who contacted me. I really did want to respond to you, please email me again, I promise that no matter what I am doing, as soon as I get the email, I'll respond to you.

4:32 PM


Oren said...
Wow. First of all please allow me to introduce myself, my name is Oren, I am an Israeli, and subsequently, a jew. I've taken to visiting HJ recently after reading an enlightening review by one of your wise peers, but have'nt until today read any of your reviews.

While viewing Brokeback Mountain it dawned on me that if ever there was a film whose reviews on HJ I'd love to see, this would have to be it, and so I arrived here.

The review aside (I found the film better than you had described, but that is probably because I had no elevated expectations going in...) I was genuinely touched by your responses to the various readers' comments. It is very rare in today's world for a compassionate and understanding voice such as your own to find it's way through the (For the most part.) intollorent and fanatical image of neo-con american christendom.

I wish you and your ministry the greatest of luck and success, and may your light shine brighter than that of those who wish to dim it.

Oren (orengoldschmidt@gmail.com)

2:55 PM


Reviews by Mike Furches said...
Oren, thanks for the comments, I did think more of the movie after the 2nd viewing. I would even encourage those who struggle with the subject matter to see the movie 2X. I have heard of several who had the same experience. Thanks again, and Blessings.

6:57 AM


Anonymous said...
The depth of your review and the understanding of God's love (as opposed to "God's damnation") is something I connect with. I was raised in a loving, Christian home... but I have found that as a lesbian, the Christian community has left me feeling cold and unwanted. I connect very deeply with what you are saying here, but I ask that you cut the movie a little slack. It's one of the first of it's kind. It's opened a few eyes and a few ears, but I will say that expecting a social revolution from one movie is a little much to ask. Otherwise, I agree with you on many point. Especially those in your responses to other commentors. You are perhaps one of the better Christians I have met in recent times. After all, God is love. And if you spread love, your setting a fantastic example for God.

12:28 PM


Jon said...
Mike, you wrote an excellent review.

I too, really didn't like Brokeback that much. I found that it just didn't really go anywhere, and the characters weren't terribly interesting. It's more of an essay on existential angst than it is a love story or "gay film." And I've seen plenty of gay-themed films that are far better, such as Lilies, Latter Days, and Mysterious Skin.

Lastly, I am gay, I am a Christian (of sorts, at least!) and I appreciate the attitude of you, Dave, and all of HJ in building bridges of understanding, and extending the love of Christ.

Jon
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11:35 PM