Friday, March 28, 2014

Noah, On The IMAX

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As I drove up to the largest IMAX theater in the world I saw on the primary Marquee listings for the movies, Noah, God's not Dead, and Jesus Son of God. Writing for Hollywood Jesus, Spirituality in Film, and The Virtual Pew as I do, I am not ignorant of the influx of Christian themed films at present. Neither am I oblivious to the controversies, both the real, perceived and imaginary. The biggest story regarding movie releases on this day, is the release of Noah. 

Word has it, and there is good indication it is true, that the director of Noah, Darren Aronofsky and the studios went back and forth with the studios recently doing a final edit to appease the Christian audience of this classic tale from the Bible. Aronofsky, according to some, isn't happy with the final results and then there are the criticisms that have come about by some that the character of Noah is too liberal, cares too much for the environment, is an animal lover and the story as portrayed on screen is an environmentalist tale. A notation here is the Biblical account in reality lasts only from Genesis 5:32-10:1. With the movie lasting approximately 2 1/2 hours, there is clearly some dramatic license.

It is likely Noah will offend many Christians, not so much other Christians or religious groups, yet, at the same time, entertain those wanting to see an action based movie. I suspect for example that what appears to be the giant rock monsters, resembling the rock monster from the classic children's movie The NeverEnding Story, in Noah (types of angels or protectors in Noah) along with all of the action, many will think this story resembles more of The Lord of the Rings than it does a Bible story. While those things didn't bother me, (I love the parts of the Bible that actually does talk about Giants, Angels, Demons, Monsters and the like) there are troubling aspects of the movie not included in the Biblical narrative, that in my opinion wasn't needed and took away from the moral themes. 

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Now let me be blunt, I think a huge mistake was made when the powers that be tried to adapt the final version of Noah into a film that appeased and pleased the Christian audience. The flood narrative, whether one believes in the flood histories or not, is a part of the narrative of many religions. The story of Noah as we know it, isn't just a Christian story, it is a part of the story of Islam, Judaism, and Christianity. Whether one agrees with the narrative though, the themes and lessons are valuable ones that should entice all people, despite what their religious beliefs are or aren't. 

Noah has a star studded cast with dramatic, albeit, sometimes a let down at times, special effects. The cast consists of Russell Crowe as Noah, Jennifer Connelly as Noah's wife Naameh, Ray Winstone as Tubal-cain, Anthony Hopkins as Methuselah, and others such as Ema Watson, Nick Nolte, and the list goes on. The cast is actually very good especially Connelly. The special effects as a whole are also quite good although there are lapses at times. I was disappointed in the sound in the movie, at times, blaring and overbearing the dialog.  It was also interesting to look at early history humans with the ultra dirty hands but such pristine white teeth. The editing and story is also choppy and the final product on screen leaves far too many questions and the intent of what the story is trying to tell isn't clear at all. I don't blame the director Aronofsky, I have made comment before and will again, I want to see his version of the film.


Now all of this said, don't take my comments wrong, the movie is entertaining, but I left the movie confused and still find myself confused as to its intent. I also wonder will the movie do more harm than good in regards to getting people to understand this Bible story. While there are things I liked about the movie, unfortunately, some of those are things that apparently many attempted to have either taken out of the movie, or the themes of the movie redirected all together.

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Noah in the outset is clearly an individual who cares for the animals of the planet, and in fact, the planet. For those who have studied the Bible, this is often referred to as The Genesis Mandate. There is a concept or belief among many that God wants the people of this planet to care for the animals and plants of the planet, not simply abuse them for their own pleasure. While they are here for us, they are not here for us to abuse. I thought the movie in a gentle way showed this side of Noah and did not feel that it was inappropriate in anyway. The confusion comes about as Noah, primarily through dreams, and what appears to be the usage of certain drugs goes into hallucinogenic states or visions and hears from God, or what we suspect is hearing from God regarding the destruction of the earth and the building of the Ark. We are never clear on this point but it is clear, there is a God or Creator involved, we see miracles take place including ultimately the floods. All through the process Noah is troubled, what is he hearing from the Creator? What is the purpose of the flood? Those things are never really made clear, although an attempt is made to give explanation as to the objective of good and evil towards the end of the movie. 

Another aspect I liked is the inclusion of the supernatural, including what is hinted at in part, in the  
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first part of Genesis 6 and other places in the Old Testament. The presentation of the supernatural in the movie is a concept that I think will get more people to read about the instances in the Bible to see what is real as opposed to what is presented on a movie screen. I think many will be shocked at some of the liberties taken in the movies, yet will also be shocked at some of the realities included in the Bible.

There are components of the film that I did not like, I will be honest, I am not so sure if I dislike them because of the way they were presented, or the apparent conclusions that one can come to regarding the characters. Noah for example is not a likeable character at all.  He will do all he can to save the planet but will leave an entrapped woman fleeing for safety to be trampled to death. While many are shown to be evil in society there are also the abused, especially women who are nothing more than sex slaves, the poor who are abused, entrapped and imprisoned. Noah struggles with the message he has heard from God, which seems to be inconsistent with the Biblical account. He is even willing to sacrifice his own family, while we have a scene that resembles in some way the story of Abraham and Isaac, while the end result is the same, there seems to be no clear voice from God to move him in the direction he moves. That all said, there are also worthy questions to ask ourselves, how do any of us deal with the reality around us in times of stress or in the places where hard decisions have to be made? Do we listen to our own convictions and for those of us who pray, do we listen for the direction and voice of God in giving that direction?

www.mosaicwichita.comThere is another component that many will have issue with, that is a God who is willing to destroy the whole of the planet. Here I am not as troubled though, I have no problem personally with a God who could create the universe having standards, guidelines and expectations for that creation. It is a simple concept really that many will take offense at, but I realized a long time ago, I am not God!  I have no right, nor do I have the ability to dictate to God, the things that God would choose to do. That said, my belief is also appreciative that God would provide a provision to make it possible for all people on earth to experience the joy and hope provided by God, to be in relationship with Him through the gift of his son Jesus. Many will not see that as an answer, there are many theological discussions that one could go through here but in its simplest form, the conclusion of the story of Noah, from a Biblical narrative, is not the rainbow, but it is the ultimate sacrifice, resurrection, and eternity provided for all followers of Jesus through Jesus death on the cross. 

I was anxiously awaiting this movie, truth is, I left the theater leaving disappointed and confused. As mentioned earlier, I don't blame the director Aronofsky, I haven't seen the movie he made, I saw a movie that seemed to be from the press, chopped and edited to appease a select audience. While some are giving this film the highest of praise, I just can't do that as I have a responsibility to share my thoughts with those who read my reviews. I honestly don't know what to think and was actually very disappointed. While an enjoyable movie to watch, it is like watching an overly edited version of The Lord of the Rings, that is highly intense, (far to intense for a young child, a friend with a young daughter, around 10, had to leave the theater early on due to its intensity,) and simply put, confusing as to what the plot objectives are for the movie. If looking for an interesting take on the story of Noah, one is encouraged to read the actual Biblical narrative and discuss the themes of a just, and yet, jealous God or a discussion on how we hear from God there can be some positive aspects to the film. My final conclusion though, many Christians, Jews, and Muslims who follow and have as a part of their faith system Noah, will be disappointed. Others, who enjoy good and entertaining fantasy will like this film, not that Noah is fantasy but that is the way it comes across. It will be interesting to hear the take of others on this, and I for one, anxiously look forward to reading them.  I will say, to save you some money, I would have loved to have seen this movie in 3-D, that option isn't available. Seeing it on the IMAX is available, that said, save yourself some extra money, there is no redeeming value in my opinion of having to pay the extra price to see it on the IMAX screen.  

Over the years I have rated my films on a scale of 1 - 10.  This one, I am just not sure about, while parts I liked, there were parts I didn't like, some things were entertaining, other things were disturbing. As a story though, as a film with technical merits, I have to say on a scale of 1 - 10, for the feelings of neutrality on this one, I give a rather disappointing 5. 

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Thursday, March 20, 2014

Amistad, Freedom Through The Cross

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Lent for me is a time of reflection, a time to draw close to the creator of the universe.  Of course for quite a few years now movies have had an impact on me, often causing me to reflect, not just on the realities in my life but also on the sacrifices others have made to better the lives of others. I first posted my thoughts about this Amistad in 1997 and again in 2001, to this day, the images of sacrifice and the power of Christ to instill hope and purpose are still relevant for me. 

 The story follows the story of an African named Cinque, from the days of his freedom in Africa, his capture, the horrible form of transport across the ocean to America where he lives as a slave. The ship he and others are shipped on is named the Amistad. The horrors experienced on the Amistad and the way people are treated are unimaginable. This superbly directed classic by Steven Spielberg, brings the viewer to the realization that true freedom can be experienced by even those in chains. We see freedom is more than a condition of our living, it is a concept contained within the heart and mind.

Djimon Hounsou playing the part of Cinque is absolutely brilliant in this role, also terrific is Anthony Hopkins as John Quincy Adams. There is terrific cinematography and this film is among the few that I ever rated a 10 on a scale of 1 - 10, it still stands up, and after all of these years, is still just as powerful for me now as it was the first time I saw it in 1997.  The direction by Steven Spielberg is one of the reasons many see Spielberg as one of the great American Directors of all time.  There is an absolutely compelling and touching script and the surrounding actors from Hounsou, Hopkins, Morgan Freeman, Matthew McConaughey and many others are fabulous.

www.thevirtualpew.com During Lent I want and seek the reminders of the power of the Cross, the power of Jesus love. Amistad doesn't hint at those things, it slams the power of the cross and the gospel in ones face just as solidly and assuredly as the Roman Centurion driving the nails into Jesus hands and feet. There is clearly salvation, while not necessarily a circumstantial salvation, but certainly a spiritual salvation that offers freedom and more for those surrendering to the Son of God who gave his life for all of us on the cross. We are in fact reminded, it is often those who are having struggles that can identify with Christ because of the struggles and journey He went through. 

There are many in life having difficulty, yet, history is strewn with examples of those who have struggled, few likely more than the slaves in early American history, yet, despise those struggles, there is the example of Jesus which many relate to, accept and receive. It was his undying love in spite of the difficulty he faced for even those who would do him harm that others learned of true love.


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For those who struggle, take the time this season to once again watch Amistad, if you haven't seen it, find a way to watch it, I promise, not only will you be inspired, but you will be reminded that even in tough times, the message of the cross is relevant for the hurting, even if that hurting person is you. This is a great movie, likely the best to never win an Oscar although it was nominated for 4 of them. Be moved and during the season of Lent, reflect on the sacrifice of Jesus for all people, including those who are abused, hurt, and rejected by society. In that love, Jesus shows his ability to love all people, and this movie is as good of a representation of that love as you may ever see. While many may see this review from me as a tad different, maybe even more like a sermon, watch the movie, you will see, everything touched on here, is touched on in the movie with the characters portrayed.  You will see, how a movie like Amistad is in reality, more than a movie, it is a sermon on the power of freedom as presented specifically, in the movie, by the sacrifices that Jesus made on the Via Dolorosa.

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Monday, March 3, 2014

Interview with David Leo Schultz, The Man Behind The Rich Mullins Movie, Ragamuffin


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Over the last year or so I had questions regarding the movie Ragamuffin The Rich Mullins Story. I had friends and people I knew who were involved with Rich over the years. Some on a close level.  I wanted to ask David Leo Schultz one of those questions, pointedly and didn't know if I would ever get that chance to address some of the controversy.  I was blessed to finally get to ask some questions of David, the director, screenwriter and man behind the movie, albeit not the way I wanted but I was pleased that he answered even some of the hard questions I asked him.  There have been some harsh things said about the film, and the lack of involvement of some people in the process.  Most of those in the past from people who knew Rich closely, I gave several of those individuals an opportunity to respond to the responses of David, as of this posting, only a few of those people responded.  The one person I wanted to know their thoughts of the most did not respond.  I will gladly post their response if they provide it at a later date but after waiting some time, I am deciding to go ahead and post the interview for The Virtual Pew and Hollywood Jesus.  While I would like to have heard specifically more of the complaints addressed by some of those having issues with the film, I have tried to take my journalistic responsibilities seriously, along with my responsibility as a follower of Jesus. I actually think David's response to the first question, citing Matthew 18 is a valid response on his part.  As to what is truth regarding what some have said and what is said in this interview, I cannot answer that, what I can answer though, is opportunities for response were provided.  I still value all of those involved, many who worked with Rich, managed him, played music with him.  I also found value in the movie where my original thoughts and views can be seen at the following links.  That said, here is the interview I did with David Leo Schultz, the man behind the movie Ragamuffin. 

My original review of Ragamuffin at Hollywood Jesus 


Mike Furches, (MF): David here are the questions I was going to ask.  I was excited about finally getting to speak to you after numerous attempts but will be honest, a little disappointing here in having to send in my questions in advance like this. 

www.mosaicwichita.comDavid Leo Schultz, (DLS): Sorry Mike. I'm holding on for dear life over here. I'm hoping to get out to Wichita and meet up with Jim Smith in May, maybe we could get a coffee or a beer when I'm in town.

MF: Here are my questions though, and if possible for follow up appreciated.  By the way, while some of the questions will be pointed, if you noticed my review of the film outside of several issues was actually very positive, it is seldom I give a  movie a review of over 7 on a scale of 1 - 10, for the potential value of this film and the impact it could have on many I gave it a 9 and mentioned you personally quite highly. 

DLS: Mike thank you for the kind review. I appreciate that.  My responses to your questions below.

MF: Now the questions:  One of the controversies that keeps coming up from those who knew  Rich, some who worked with him, band mates, and even his long time manager Gay Quisenberry is they were either not contacted at all regarding the research for the film, or had very minimal contact.  Can you tell us some as to your reasoning for this, and how the story line was actually developed?

DLS: I'd be happy to respond.  First, I'd encourage anyone that has a problem with me can contact me directly. Especially if they are a brother or sister in Christ. That's a Matthew 18 thing. First go to the brother ya know...Things like this can quickly fall down the slope of he said, she said, and gossip/slander issues can easily rise. So we should be cautious here. Secondly, let me say that when I was 9 years old my cousin committed suicide. He was 28. He was like a father to me. If someone one day came to me and said they wanted to make a movie about my cousin, how I would respond might even depend on the day they asked. One day I might say sure, the other day I might say no. I don't think it's a bad thing or a good thing, but more of a personal thing. I'll start with Gay & David (Beaker) Strasser. They were two of the first I reached out to. I never received a response back from Beaker. Eventually Julie, his wife reached out via facebook. We've been very friendly through facebook. Someone sent me one of her facebook posts saying that we reached out for them to be involved, and they declined. Before I met the ragamuffin band I had already reached out to Gay, and then after meeting Jimmy Abegg he encouraged me to reach out again to Gay. I did, and she did respond this time, but also declined to be involved. There were quite a few people I sent messages to, but never heard back. Regarding his band mates through the years, he had many. I'm sure there are some I don't even know about, but if you mean the ragamuffins, I had the priveledge and the honor to meet all of them.  Actually if you ever get a chance to see the doc we made (Rich Mullins: A Ragamuffin's Legacy) you can see interviews we did with some of them for the purposes of research. We even sent Jimmy Abegg a few of the scripts during the screenwriting process. Two, if I remember correctly. One in the very early stages (a very rough script) and I believe a draft pretty close to us shooting. The reason we did with Jimmy is because he specifically asked to be included in the process. If some others wanted to be more involved I wish I had known, I would have loved that. It could be possible with some I didn't even know they existed. I swear, every time I turn around there is someone else who I never had heard of that was one of Rich's best friends. It seems to me that Rich had such a vast life. Before I ever set out to write the script, or hire a writer, or any of that I did research. Matter of fact the process took about 8 months all together. It wasn't easy, because I pretty much had to play detective. I had to track people down, and follow leads, the whole bit. I started with interviewing Rich's family Dave, Sharon, Debbie, Llyod, Brennan Manning, Lee & Nikki Lundgren, James Bryan Smith, Mitch Mcvicker and a few other kid brothers like Eric Hauk & Michael Aukofer. I also met some of Rich's best friends from college till his death like Kathy Sprinkle, Sam Howard, Gary Rowe, and Elizabeth Lutz etc...We made the entire movie in collaboration with Rich Mullins family, and Dave Mullins (Rich's bro) was our on set consultant for the movie. I actually shared final cut of the movie with the family. That was a decision made, for me, even before I met Dave Mullins. It's something I offered up in our first meeting. But I didn't come in with an agenda, but more of a hope that the story would echo the gospel of JESUS. I had some ideas, but I just wanted to learn, and Dave Mullins was great about it to. He didn't try to fill in the blanks for anybody else. He said, here's the piece that I know, but for these other pieces of the puzzle you'll have to go and find them. All I can say is I tried my best. I talked with anybody that wanted to talk with me. If anyone wanted to be involved more than they were, that's honestly news to me, because even after 20 years of being a fan, and the 8 months of research, and 3 1/2 years of making the movie I love hearing Rich Mullins stories. It's just something I don't get tired of. That's the long story. The short story is: I did the best I could with what I had. I talked to as many people as I could, that I could find, and that would talk to me. I only stopped when I felt like I found the story, the story that would become the movie. One more thing: If I hurt anyone's feelings in the process, that wasn't my intention to leave anyone out, and I'm sorry. I tried my best.

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MF: You have directed a largely unknown cast, yet you pull out some rather convincing performances, how did you do this and can you tell us some about that process.

DLS: Well, I couldn't have done it, it we didn't already have a talented cast. I didn't give them talent. That's something they came to the table with. Again, it's not perfect. There's moments within my own acting that I watch and go, "yuck", but pretty much the question I would constantly ask when I was directing was, "Do I believe this?" If I felt like I had a take where it felt really honest. I moved on. If it wasn't I tended to do more takes. I tend to be a director to work really closely with the actors, especially when it comes to personalization's and coaching. It probably bothered some actors, but I think some enjoyed it.

MF: You chose to go with a musician to play the part of Rich, Mike Koch who did a very good job at capturing part of the demeanor of Rich, can you tell us some about the process of casting Mike?

DLS: Sure. I knew Mike in College. He and I were both big fans of Rich & Brennan Manning. We would sit in waffle house for hours drinking coffee quoting both of them. It was actually mike that gave me my first copy of Ragamuffin Gospel.  We even met Brennan for the first time together. We all went to Perkins together and had pie. Then after college we lost touch. We didn't talk for 10 years. When I thought this movie might become a reality I thought I'd reach out to him to have him  play a song. Then he was in town, so we did lunch, and I asked him to audition, because we just couldn't find anybody yet. We had one Hollywood actor, who really loved the script but could make his schedule work with his TV show. We had mike and the other actors do a monologue & song of rich's from one of his concerts, and he was just absolutely amazing. We did a final test of sorts in LA, with some of our final picks. They were all great. But i just felt mike had that Rich essence in his own personality as well as nailing the audition.

MF: I was impressed with the fact that you showed Rich with a lot of his blemishes and all.  While some have been critical of that, most have been supportive and appreciative of showing a huge part of the real Rich.  What was it you hoped to present in the way you presented Rich?

DLS: I just wanted to tell an honest story. Dave Mullins and I said from the beginning that we didn't want to make Rich out to be something he wasn't. Some flawless saint. And for me Rich was one of the first of his time to talk about how he had sins, and brokenness, and pain- I mean, that's why he was my hero. There's this myth in the church that you have to be perfect for Jesus to love you, and ragamuffins like Rich & Brennan break those myths but echoing the gospel with their lives. They weren't perfect. But they continually pressed into Jesus with all their shortcomings, and reminded us all that we are all as Brennan put it, "Loved for who we are, not for who we should be, because none of us are as we should be."

MF: Another thing that has received a little comment from those who knew Rich, including myself, is that Rich could at times be quite quirky and fun to be around. Can you describe why we see very little if any of this in Rich's demeanor in the film as it was something a lot of people recognized in Rich?

DLS: Sure that's a fair question. One, the movie is more a story about his pain versus being a story about his joy. Two, this was actually something we attempted at times, but we felt like we kept falling short, and so better to cut it than to put it in.  Again Rich was so vast, this incredible song writer, musician, insightful, a poet, a thinker, funny, deep...on and on...and when we went to cast Rich it was like well...good luck and even though Mike was amazing, I think there was short term experienced grief I had right after I cast Mike. Not because he wasn't the best choice, because I think he was...but because I realized I was looking for Rich Mullins to play Rich Mullins. Rich was one of a kind. So yeah I actually agree with you that I wish we had that quirky fun thing, that child likeness thing in there...but when you go back and watch it, since we cover 35 years, we had moments in the montages and other small moments where we showd that side of him. But again we knew up front that there was no way to fit 42 years into a 2 hour movie. It's not the only story of Rich Mullins. There are many stories of Rich Mullins. He lived too big of a life for there to just be one. This is just one of them.

MF: Another area that I seemed to understand from my viewing at the World Premiere was there   There was an almost laissez-fair comment that the film is what it is and that you wished people left the movie just feeling okay or something along those lines.  What exactly is it that you want people to get from the film.
didn't seem to be much of an interest in presenting the film at larger venues or to see it be as big as it could be.

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DLS: Yeah, I'm not sure you interpreted that correctly. Or You did and I communicated it, at the time, incorrectly. One of the two. One of the things I do remember saying was that I hope people watch the movie, then forget about the movie and fall in love with Jesus. That's my deepest hope for anybody that watches the movie. I meant that. That's truly what I want people to get from the film. There are several people out there that are wondering why we're not doing a theatrical release or larger venues. The truth is that's what we tried first. We shopped the movie around to distributors first, and no body was interested in distributing this movie theatrically. And most people don't know the cost in P&A for a movie that goes into theaters. For most studio movies it's millions. For other smaller movie's it's at the very least it takes A LOT OF MONEY.  We don't have that. There's actually one company out there looking for P&A money for us, and IF they are successful we MIGHT get a 10-15 city theatrical release. We are truly hoping for that to happen, but at this point it's not guaranteed.  That's where the idea for the tour came from, it was out of a desire to at least give people the opportunity to see it that wants to see it. At the time of us first planning our tour we didn't even have a distributor or know if we would get one, or see any sign of it being a reality so we at least wanted people to have some way to see it. It wasn't a substitutionary option, at the time, it was the only option.

MF: Are there future plans for a DVD and can you tell us if there is anything we can expect from the special features?

DLS: Yes we think this movie could have potentially have an exclusive deal with Wal-mart May 6th. But I'm not sure if that's a done deal. So hopefully it will be on blue-ray and DVD in Wal-Marts may 6th.

MF: This is Color Green's first film and your first effort at directing, what have you learned in the process?

DLS: This is actually Color Green's 4th film, but yes it's my first film to direct.

I've learned so much. My other films, in terms of writing and producing, were like going to undergraduate school for film, and this was my masters school. I've learned, as I think most artists do, you got to keep doing it if you want to get better. I'm excited to learn from my mistakes, and go make another movie, and learn from all those mistakes, and go make another movie. This is the assumption of course that I'd be blessed enough to make another movie. Getting to make one movie is like catching lightning in a bottle. The thought of it happening again seems highly unlikely. Of course that's what I thought before I made this movie.

Thanks for letting me share.

Kind Regards,

David Leo Schultz

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Monday, February 10, 2014

Touching Rock N Roll History, An Interview with Mickey Jones

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A number of years ago I had the honor of interviewing rock n roll legend, Mickey Jones.  Mickey was the drummer for Bob Dylan on the Electric Tour, the tour that changed the world.  With all of the Beatles discussion as of late, I thought it appropriate to track this interview down, and re-post it.  So that all said, here goes, a blast from the past that touches Rock N Roll history.

Mike: Hey Mickey, I want to first of all thank you for taking the time to talk to me and give me some of your insights to the new movie The Fighting Temptations. Mickey, a lot of people have no idea who you are when they hear your name but certainly know you when they see your face. Can you tell us some of the roles you have played in television and movies?

Mickey: That is the life of a character actor. I have done roughly 80 films but most notably, National Lampoon's Vacation with Chevy Chase, Starman with Jeff Bridges, Dean Bang with Don Johnson, Total Recall with Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sling Blade with Billy Bob Thornton and Tin Cup with Kevin Costner. I also did the main song in the movie called The Double Bogey Blues. It is on the soundtrack album as well. I've done about 400 TV shows but the best was the 8 years I did with Tim Allen on Home Improvement. I've done over 300 commercials but the most remembered is also the most aired commercial ever in the history of television where I played the big biker with the little old lady on the subway for Breath Savers.

Mike: You seem to be cast quite often as a character actor, playing specific roles, kind of the down and out or rough guy with a motorcycle guy kind of role, how close are those characters in real life to the real Mickey Jones?

Mickey: I do ride a motorcycle but I very seldom kill anybody in real life. I do play a lot of bad guys which are fun to do as a character actor but they are nothing close to my real life. In my real life, my wife and I are both Christians. I will say some certain words if they are right for the character but I will not take the Lord's name in vain even as a character. I did it once and have regretted it ever since. It was in the film Starman. I still cringe when I see that scene. Unfortunately, they is forever.

Mike: I noticed that you help host a motorcycle rally on a regular basis, what is that all about and what is the purpose of the rally?

Mickey:
I host a number of motorcycle events around the country every year for charity. The biggest event I host is The Mickey Jones CHOC Ride and Blues Festival. We raise money for CHOC (Children's Hospital of Orange County). I also host a ride in Cocoa Beach, Florida for ARC-Brevard. That is the Association of Retarded Citizens. October 25th I will be hosting the first annual Laci Peterson Memorial Ride in Modesto, CA. I just hosted G.A.M.E., The Great American Motorcycle Experience in Las Vegas, NV and I host The Sam's Town River Run in Tunica, MS. I love to ride and until September 19th of this year, I was the Celebrity Spokesman for Indian Motorcycle. On Sept. 19th, they closed the doors and went out of business.

Mike: You are in a movie that is doing quite nicely right now called The Fighting Temptations, what would you say are the central themes of the movie?

Mickey: I hope everyone will go see this film. Of the 80 some odd films that I have done, I think I am more proud of this one that any film I have ever done. There are no machine guns, no car crashes and no explosions. I usually cut 2 or 3 peoples throats before I get killed but not in this film. I play this redneck pig farmer who becomes the organist for the Beulah Baptist Church Gospel Choir. The is no foul language and no nudity. You can actually take your whole family to this film. It is hysterically funny, it will grab your heart and you will walk out of the theatre feeling like a million bucks. I can't remember the last time I walked out of a Hollywood film feeling like a million bucks. It stars Cuba Gooding Jr. and Beyonce' Knowles and you will love it. It is all about the music.

Mike: Can you tell us what it was like working with the cast of The Fighting Temptations? And of course any inside scoop not commonly known would be appreciate, in a fun way of course.

Mickey: The cast actually became a family. I would sometimes go to the set just to see some of the gospel music even if I was not in the scene. I had to go see Reverend Shirley Caesar. They are the best gospel choir in the world. Another thing that happened on this film that I have never seen on any film I have ever worked on. There were days that the cast would pray, in the van, on the way to work. We all did this movie for God

Mike: Can you tell me some about how you got the part of Scooter and what it was about the character that attracted you to him?

Mickey: When I read the script and first went in to meet the director, Jonathon Lynn, I knew that I wanted this part. I have always asked God to put me in a film that would glorify Him and this was one film that I actually asked God to give me this job. I fell in love with Scooter and I knew I could smoke him. As a musician, there was no way that I could not deliver the goods. I also liked the fact that Scooter was a principal figure in the film. He was one of the Fighting Temptations. I hope the film does well because all of the principal actors, the Fighting Temptations, are already signed to a sequel.

Mike: It is unusual that a movie such a strong Spiritual backdrop be made by MTV. Did that surprise you after you read the script?

Mickey: I was a little surprised but because it is all about the music, I understood completely. I think MTV helped arrange some of the vocal artists in the film.

Mike: What was your specific interest in making the movie?

Mickey: First, all of us actors are always looking for work but when something comes along that you dream about, you jump at the chance.

Mike: I have read that T-Bone did a lot of praying and sharing of his faith on the set with the actors, even helped some of them become Christians? What was your thought to this and was it something that normally takes place when a Christian is in movie?

Mickey: T-Bone is an incredible person. I got to know him very well and it is true, his spirit covered the set and I am sure he brought some folks to the Lord. He was one of the ones responsible for the praying on the way to work. We talked and shared at lengths and I thank God for his presence and his friendship.

Mike: How did the producers and director respond to the Spiritual things, specifically related to Christianity that took place on the movie set?

Mickey: One of the producers, Loretha Jones, who was also one of the music producers was a blessing on the set as well and loved the atmosphere of Christianity that was present all the time.

Mike: I know from what you told me before that you had had an interview with Focus on the Family, a Christian organization, how did that come about?

Mickey: One night in Columbus GA while we were shooting the Gospel Explosion segment, I read the memo from our publicist, Cassandra Butcher and found that one of the press people on the set the next day was from Focus On The Family. I called her and told her that I wanted to do something with the Focus folks. I am a big fan of Dr. James Dobson. I spent about a half an hour with them doing the interview. Unfortunately nothing ever appeared in their newsletter.

Mike: Can you tell us some about your faith and relationship with Jesus Christ?

Mickey: I became a Christian when I was 14 years old. I got saved and asked Jesus to come into my heart at a Christian camp when I was in junior high school. Now, with that said, I lived a portion of my life in a way that God would not be proud of. I was in the world. God was always in my heart but I disappointed him many times. I have been married to my wife, Phyllis, for the past 23 years and I have tried to live the way God wants us all to live. Several years ago, she asked me, "Do you want us to be yoked together in Heaven?" My reply was, "What a silly question, of course I do". She said, "Well, you better get in the Book." I was heartbroken. I grabbed my tail between my legs and felt ashamed. Because of her encouragement, I have been reading the Bible everyday. I wake up early and go to my chair and lamp in our den and spend time with the Lord in the Book. I look forward to that every morning before I turn on the TV or even breakfast. I have almost read the entire Bible. When I do finish, I will continue to read it again. I'm sure I will do this the rest of my life. A couple of years ago we went to Israel and the Bible came alive for me. Now when I read, it is like watching a movie on a big screen in front of my eyes. It's funny, when we were in Caesarea, we were told the story of Cornelius, the Roman Centurion who summoned Peter from Joffa because he wanted to know about this Jesus guy. He sent 6 of his guards to fetch Peter and when Peter told him of Jesus, Cornelius fell on his knees and became a Christian. I was very moved with this story. When we got back home, I picked up my Bible the next morning and by Book mark opened me to the story of Cornelius. Believe me, that was not a coincidence.

Mike: A lot of people are critical of movies, but it seems as if movies are addressing spiritual issues more and more, have you noticed that and what are your thoughts on it?

Mickey: I am not thrilled with most of the Hollywood movies. I do not see many movies that are based on God. I saw Bad Boys 2 recently and I heard the F word 40 times in the first 5 minutes. I think that is a turn off to most movie goers. It is to me. I guess that is one of the reasons that I am so excited about The Fighting Temptations. I have people stop me on the street and tell me that they saw the movie and loved every minute of it. In fact, they are going to see it again because they want to take somebody with them. That is a good sign.

Mike: What do you say to the Christians and others who are critical of movies?

Mickey: It is not my place to judge others. I am only responsible for me.

Mike: How much of a responsibility do Christians have to be involved in the "Hollywood" movie making process, and is there presence really felt?

Mickey: As a Christian, it is a responsibility to stand up for our beliefs. I will never be ashamed to let folks know that He is my God. In order to continue to work, we must make some concessions but taking God's name in vain is not one that I will make. I feel His presence everyday.

Mike: There is a scene in the movie where the prison guards bring in the inmates and are holding guns, there is a comment by one of the characters that guns are not allowed in church. You are playing the organ and reach in your pants pull out your gun, set it on top of the organ and say something like, "Well somebody should have told me that." I personally loved that scene and the parts with you in them are among my favorites, including that particular scene. It seems as if some Christians are so critical of peoples actions without ever talking to them about those actions and why those actions might be wrong. That scene kind of illustrated that. I would be interested to hear your comments as to things of that nature in this particular scene and others that The Fighting Temptations seems to try and address; the attitudes of non acceptance of those who "are different", and areas where people in the church and those who don't go to church just don't seem to understand each other.

Mickey: I loved that scene as well. There was a line cut of the movie that I really loved but when you hear the line, you will know why it was cut. The additional line was, "You know, Charlton Heston played Moses, I just figured we was all on the same team." Paramount elected to remove the line because Charlton Heston had just announced that he had been diagnosed with Alzheimer's. In order to be politically correct, the line had to be removed. However, it was a funny line. I own guns. A lot of people seemed to forget that our founding fathers wrote into the Constitution, the second amendment, the right to bear arms. It is not connected with the phrase, "in a regulated militia" either. Guns have saved more lives than have been accidentally taken.

Mike: While The Fighting Temptations seems to address issues related to the churches acceptance of those often forgotten about, those sometimes called, "The Lost, The Last and The Least" it is also done so with respect. What was the general attitude of how those involved with church should be approached in the character development?

Mickey: I think it is important to note that in the film that some are persecuted but all are welcome in the end.

Mike: You are an organ player among other things in the movie. As a musician myself it really looked like you were a legitimate musician? Are you or are you that good of an actor? Also if you have been involved in music in what ways have you been involved?

Mickey: This will be a fun question to answer. I spent 23 years in the music business. I have 17 gold and platinum albums on the wall of my home. I was the drummer for Trini Lopez for 8 years, Johnny Rivers for 3 years, Bob Dylan for 2 years, (I was the original drummer with The Band) and 10 years with Kenny Rogers and The First Edition. I play drums, guitar and a little piano.

Mike: (Note Added after interview) I must state that Mickey did answer the question regarding if he really played in the movie. Producer Jonathan Lynn made a request that I will honor along with Mickey. In other words you will have to see the movie yourself and decide if you think Mickey is answering. It is one of the Studio Secrets of this movie.)

Mike: One of the great things about this movie is it's incorporation of R&B, Rap, Hip-Hop, some southern feels, and even Blues and Gospel all forming music that is accepted and played in a church. How much fun was it making those musical scenes in the movie, and what lessons could the church learn about the incorporation of various styles of music in their worship services?

Mickey: No one will ever know how much fun it was to make this movie. Everyday was a new concert. I am not a big fan of rap but I fell in love with Zane and T-Bone. I would go in on my days off just to watch the Shirley Caesar Gospel Choir. I did not want to miss a minute of the wonderful performances in the film. I sang on a couple of the songs in the film. We had more fun in the recording studio. I got to sing with The OJs. How cool is that? I told the director that we had become such good friends that I was going to record a CD with The OJs. It was going the be called The OJs and a Cracker. I thought he would fall out of his chair. Like I said, it is about the music. One of my favorite artists is Darrell Mansfield. He plays Christian blues. All music is welcome in the eyes of God.

Mike: What is on the horizon for Mickey Jones, what movies roles or anything that you are excited about?

Mickey: I recently released a 90 minute documentary on the 1966 Bob Dylan First Electric World Tour. It was the first tour when Bob played electric around the world. I was his original drummer. When we started the tour, the group was called The Hawks. None of the press ever referred to us as The Hawks. All they ever said was The Band is too loud, The Band should go back to America, so that's how we got the name, The Band. You can order it out our website, www.1966tourhomemovies.com. It is a real musical history of my life. I recently shot a film in Centerville, Iowa. It is called "Iowa". It is a pretty violent film. It is about the crystal meth capitol of the world. It should come out next spring.

Mike: Mickey, I must say that this has been a thrill for me, I have respected your characters for years in movies and it is great knowing that you are a brother in Christ and call Jesus your Rock. I just want to give you the opportunity to say anything you would like before the conclusion of the interview.

Mickey: My wife told me something once that has stuck with me and I think about it all the time. "If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything". God wants us to stand up for him. I will not fall for this left wing attack on Christians. I will not fall for this Godless society that we live in today. I already read the back of the book, I know who wins, WE DO!


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Friday, January 10, 2014

Ragamuffin, The True Story of Rich Mullins


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There is little doubt, three artists, each deceased, Keith Green, Larry Norman and Rich Mullins left more of an impact on the Christian music scene than likely any could ever imagine. These three, all unique, all different, all with their own unique style had something different about them, for Rich Mullins it was his simplicity and willingness to go against the grain of what Nashville wanted in their sound. For Rich Mullins, as presented in this film, it was his honest search and struggle to experience Jesus. He ultimately decided to reside in Wichita Kansas. Wichita is the town I currently reside in, the town where I have developed relationships and friendships with many of those who knew Rich. Yet the story of Rich Mullins, much like the story of many like Lonnie Frisbee is one of brokenness. It is a story that resonates with biblical themes of how God uses brokenness to reach the world. 

The new film company Color Green Films in association with Kid Brothers of St. Frank Co. have come together to make their first film, Ragamuffin The True Story of Rich Mullins. Directed by David Schultz, and starring Mike Koch, David Schultz, Wolfgang Bodison, James Kyson, Mitch Mcvicker among others is quite an accomplishment, especially considering it is a first effort by largely unknowns. The film in short weaves much of the story of Rich Mullins quite nicely in dramatic form. Koch who plays Mullins does an admirable job.  Schultz, the director and others did quite nicely when deciding to use a musician to play the part as opposed to an actor. Schultz, while not looking much like Mullins, transforms his persona quite well, Schultz also does a very nice job in performing all of the Mullins songs. There is much more to like about Ragamuffin, it is a first rate movie and far better than most independent efforts. To be short and blunt to this point, Ragamuffin is deserving of a theatrical release where it would have maximum impact on transcending and telling the story of a true troubadour, not so much because of his music but his honesty, love and search for God, despite his obvious weaknesses. 

Ragamuffin starts off with Mick Mcvicker (who plays himself) and Mullins stopping off at an old abandoned church to record what Mullins thought would be an important contribution to his music, The Jesus Record. The story moves to Mullins telling his story to a radio announcer, a story that included everything from at times, apparent neglect and the desire to feel love from his father to lost love in college and more. The DJ Rich is telling his story to is played by Mullins real life brother, Randy Mullins who asks questions that has Rich Mullins character flashing back to various points in his life.  While flashbacks can be disrupting, Schultz does a nice job using this technique. The story flows and we see Rich Mullins in a way many didn't know about, a broken man, with faults that included depression, a temper, alcohol issues if not alcoholism, and an apparent chain smoking habit. I mention this because we see a side of a Christian Music 'icon' that many didn't know existed. Even on the way out of the sold-out world premiere at the Orpheum Theater in Wichita the first comment I heard from another spectator was, "I never knew he was as messed up as he was." Herein lies a big problem, how will the church and Christians who placed him up on a pedestal respond to the real man. Rich Mullins isn't the first in this predicament, it is likely he won't be the last. Often times it seems as if Christians and the church put people up on pedestals without realizing they are simply, broken people having the same hurts and struggles as everyone else.

Despite having a cast virtually unknown, including band mates of Mullins, relatives, and friends, this movie plays out very nicely. The cinematography, story, everything plays out very well. It was one of several areas I was surprised. I have to give credit where credit is due, Schultz does a more than admirable job at directing his first feature. If he hasn't considered this as a career, he should.

One of the things I loved about Ragamuffin was its willingness to be honest. It is likely the area that will cause some problems. It is sad, that many within the established church will have serious issue with this film. Even on the current advance screening tour, the film is scheduled to play in many churches I suspect where some attendees will have problems in the end.  It has been my experience, that many within Christian circles don't want to accept the reality of what is really going on in the "Christian" industry. Ragamuffin shows is quite honestly and while holding back on some issues related to Rich, it does a very good job at showing his brokenness and struggles. For those that relate and are searching for truth, this movie does as good a job at presenting the real life, honest to God struggle of walking in faith better than anything I have ever seen put on screen. I suspect that even after reading the warnings, giving the information in advance, there will be many who will doubt these stories and issues related to Rich Mullins, until seeing the film. They will then have one of three reactions, 1) doubt, 2) serious displeasure in supporting him, or 3) feel the grace of God, knowing that God loves us while we are yet sinners. It is here must remember, just as Mullins would state, it is important to remember that God not only loves us, he likes us. For some it seems as if the search for honesty, one with real questions and a sincere heart, has to be glossed over, or for some reason, conclude with the spiritual answers that many of us know aren't anything more than clichés. Yet for many of us, who are in fact, Ragamuffins, we know the answers are in some ways more complicated than that, and in others, more simple than that. 

While there was a great deal I liked about this film, there was also some things I disliked.  Unfortunately many key players, their stories and more were left out, entirely. Gay Quisenberry was the long time manager for Mullins. Despite numerous efforts to find out why she was left out of the story, including attempts at speaking to the Director the night of and after my questions regarding several issues went unanswered. Gay was a vital  part of Rich's life, from his ministry to many other areas, including even his involvement in the Navajo ministry.  I have known Gay for some time, appreciate and value her, I have learned multitudes about Rich from her, that said, I know of her love for him and apparently, to have not been contacted in regards to this story, to have shared her memories, experiences of Rich recorded is somewhat troubling. There may be reasonable explanations as to this but I have no idea as I have yet to get a response from the filmmakers on this issue. The last response after asking via a pm at FB, leaving a phone message last night, from the director this afternoon was, "Hey man sorry we didn't connect. crazier last night that I could have imagined. I unfortunately just don't have any open time today. So do what you need to do my friend. Thanks for coming!"

I could go into more detail here, but will simply say, it would be nice to work together to try and support a film of this nature which is so deserving. If I was one that was from the typical "press" that would be one issue, being the Ragamuffin I am, (those that know me know the absolute truth to this) I have a hard time accepting the reasoning for not making some time despite the months of effort in this. It is the hardest I ever had to work to get any information from the filmmakers only to only get nothing.  BTW my efforts to try and obtain information started in August of 2013, so it wasn't like this was a first attempt. It is especially sad here as this is a very promising, good film, one deserving of people seeing but one also deserving of truth a truth that many will want to know about.

As to the film, for the content, and the praise I will give the director and cast, in fact all involved with this movie a huge two thumbs up.  I am confused though with such a good, quality, much better than expected film, doesn't it deserves all of the effort it can to reach people? There was some discussion prior to the film in a constructed Q&A, about the film not being that big of a deal, to that I say, Hogwash! This movie has the potential to help people understand their own walk, I know because I am one who can relate to the struggles, the difficulties of life as exemplified in Ragamuffin whether it be never living up to the expectations of others, feeling rejection for feeling what you feel, the aspect of having a broken heart to the ultimate need of feeling and experiencing Christ love and grace. So many within this institution we call church hurt, they in a way become Rich Mullins all over again because they are lonely and are starving for the answers. Some question the search, even condemn those who are searching, this movie though, it speaks truth. The message of Ragamuffin is that Jesus loves you, he cares for you, he likes you, no matter your circumstance, no matter your sin. That God would choose to use the broken to illustrate his love for others and communicate His truths; that is a message we all need to hear, even the church who seems to at times have forgotten that message.  This movie is powerful. It can and will reach many in their own lost and hurting world.  Why not take advantage as a film company and make that happen? There are many studio films which have clearly failed at the effort of telling a good story with a message that can change the world, this one has the potential to change a life, a life God cares for, loves, and likes. Why not do everything possible to make that happen.  Seldom have I ever done this, but this is a movie that is worthy of the cry from the fans who see it, it is worthy because for many of us, we are Ragamuffins walking on this path called life, hand in hand with a savior named Jesus.

On a scale of 1 - 10, for the incredible nearly perfect recognition that those of us who hurt can still be loved and liked, minus the one individual who is in body now gone, for the powerful life of Rich Mullins, minus that life, I give this a very surprising and insightful 9

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